In this conversation, we talk policy and politics with Brian McGuire, who served as Chief of Staff for Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-KY).

We began with a conversation about his own career path, what it’s like to work for Sen. McConnell and what he thinks is a common, yet unfair criticism of him.

Then we turned to timely subjects: Steve Bannon’s sudden fall, whether the Michael Wolff book matters, and where Congressional negotiations are headed on a range of policy issues.