In this episode of Software Leaders Uncensored, host Steve Taplin speaks with Brian Soby, co-founder and CTO of App Omni, about his career journey from defense contracting to leading product security at Salesforce and founding a SaaS security company. They discuss the importance of understanding incentives in software security, the misconceptions surrounding zero trust environments, and the challenges and opportunities presented by AI in the SaaS space. Brian shares insights on the current state of generative AI, the pitfalls of relying on superficial solutions, and offers advice for tech leaders navigating the startup landscape.