"I think one of the things that is unfortunate about design thinking is it gets a little bit of a bad rap in that people don't see a practical application of it. And I think if you can strip away some of the aesthetics and strip away some of the language, but there are practical applications, I call it, we have to be practical and tactical because we can really drive a lot of change in our organization by doing that." -Brian Sullivan

In this episode of Control the Room, I had the pleasure of speaking with Brian about his twenty plus years of experience in the Design Industry and what led him to become a Design Thinking advocate and educator. We discuss how to make Design Thinking more practical and the joy of having a job making other people better at their job. We then talk about the importance of creating space for mental health and a few activities he uses with his teams. Listen in to learn about his unique approach for educating design students, designing mentorships, and knowledge sharing.