Brian Zahnd describes himself as a "full-time pastor, occasional author and would-be mountaineer". In this episode, he talks about pursuing Jesus in a mutating, increasingly polarised America. We also discuss pilgrimage and people's hunger for God during this pandemic. Want to support this podcast? There are two fun ways to do that. 1) Buy me a coffee: https://bit.ly/pilgrimpitstop. 2) Buy yourself a t-shirt: https://rdbl.co/3KKd7R7.