In this episode, Mackenzie opens with some observations about a few different items across the NBA, including early returns on Victor Wembanyama's rookie season, and the new-look Los Angeles Clippers!

Then, Mackenzie is joined by Joel, Phil and Josh to discuss which team has the brighter future – the Orlando Magic or the Oklahoma City Thunder?

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• Music credits for this episode - “Ronin” by Exetexe.

• The 1st half of this episode was recorded on Wednesday November 15th, 2023.

• The 2nd half of this episode was recorded on Sunday October 8th, 2023.