Sometimes science and conservation take a toll on one's wellbeing, especially if you have to take up that burden all by yourself. However, sometimes it helps when you can share the good and bad sides of it all with someone you can always count on- say, for example, your brother. This is the reality of Sergio and Héctor Avila, two kickass biologists and/or activists hailing from northern Mexico. In this episode, they will tell us all about their shared experience growing up in nature and how they forged their own path while remaining as close as ever. Jaguars, rattlesnakes, sustainable agriculture, decolonization and Indigenous perspectives... We could have gone on and on for hours, but this will still suffice. All you have to do is click and join us in The Snakeman's Lair!

Soundtrack: Desert Blues North Africa (Carlos Chagas) from Jamendo