Episode 41 - Bruce Hoffman on ISIS and al Qaeda in 2019 and Beyond

For Episode 41 I had my fourth annual discussion with Professor Bruce Hoffman on the Islamic State and al Qaeda in 2019 and Beyond.

We open up reviewing 2018 to frame the discussion before going into some significant events of 2019. We talk about the deaths of al-Baghdadi and Hamza bin Laden, the impact their deaths may have on their respective organizations, and the pros and cons of a decapitation strategy.

We talk about IS’ inability to re-establish a presence in Sirte, Libya, three years after its expulsion from its North African enclave. Going digital, we also covered the notion of “deplatforming” IS from social media platforms and the outlook on its propaganda machine.

While IS/AQ suffered some significant setbacks in 2019, I asked Professor Hoffman about their successes over the year. We covered:

- their continued ability to conduct hundreds of simple and sophisticated attacks across the region;

- the prison breaks occurring in Northern Syria as US military withdraws from the area - allowing other actors such as Russia and Turkey to create more chaos upon which terrorist organizations thrive;

- and their spread deeper into new areas of the sub-Saharan African region; and

- Turkey has begun deporting foreign fighters back to their home countries…and the international community doesn’t seem sure what to do about it.

The Security Studies Podcast is produced by Jeffrey Palmer. 


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