We got our first twofer on the podcast as I got a chance to sit down with LPW star The Renegade Petey Lakes and his manager, wrestler, manager, referee and more The Star Maker Franco Costanzo, Brutale Futura! Have a sit as we talk about making stars, hating the athletic commission, what it means to be a renegade, and try and find out what’s a matter me, huh?