In this episode, Paul sits down with Mark Fennell for a deeply honest conversation about why people tolerate situations that are clearly costing them their health, happiness, and sense of self. At the heart of the conversation is Mark’s childhood experience of severe bullying, and the moment he finally stood up for himself—not because he suddenly became brave, but because the pain of staying silent became greater than the fear of change. That same pattern, he explains, shows up repeatedly in adult life and in business: entrepreneurs staying stuck in roles they hate, tolerating toxic dynamics, or running companies that are slowly burning them out.

As the conversation unfolds, the focus shifts from tactics to self-reflection, self-worth, and responsibility. Mark challenges the idea that business stress is purely operational, showing how control, micromanagement, reactivity, and difficult relationships often stem from unexamined beliefs and fear. The central insight is clear and quietly confronting: if nothing changes, nothing changes—and until the leader is willing to face themselves, neither will the business.

Mark Fennell is a high-performance life and business coach, author, and speaker with over 20 years’ experience working with entrepreneurs, leaders, and teams. His work focuses on self-worth, resilience, leadership under pressure, and helping people break patterns that keep them stuck personally and professionally. Mark is known for his practical, experience-led approach and his ability to translate deep inner work into real-world change.

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