In this conversation, David Burgess-Joyce discusses his role as the interim chair for Reform UK Wirral, the challenges and rewards of building a grassroots political movement, and the current state of local governance. He highlights the importance of engaging with passionate activists and the need for change in political representation. The discussion also touches on the impact of national politics on local governance, the corruption within councils, and the strategies needed for effective governance moving forward. David expresses optimism about the future of Reform UK and the potential for significant electoral success.

• "It's a full-time job, I have to say."
• "We have over 2,400 activists who are registered."
• "The British people will crack."
• "We need to be seen as the adults in the room."
• "We would have decimated the two main parties."
• "They will do any dirty trick that they can find."
• "We need to see where the bodies are buried."