Ever built a business that looked great on paper but felt like a full-time fire drill? 👀 Then this episode with marketing maven Patty Farmer is your wake-up call.

Host Kimberly Spencer sits down with Patty — an eight-figure entrepreneur, international speaker, and queen of lifestyle-first leadership — to unpack how to build a business that feeds your soul instead of draining your sanity.

Patty shares her signature philosophy: before you chase profits, define the life you actually want to live. From her “Grow Your Influence Tree” to her unconventional “sandwich method” for podcast guesting, Patty shows us that sustainable success is never about doing more — it’s about doing right.

They dig into:

This episode isn’t just another business chat — it’s a manifesto for the bold, heart-led entrepreneur who’s done with burnout and ready to design a legacy that loves them back.

✨ Hit play and learn how to align your vision, visibility, and voice with the life you’re meant to live.

😎Get booked on the TOP 5% of podcasts that can build your brand awareness and your bottom line. Book your $100K Profit from Guest Podcasting Planning Call here: https://www.communicationqueens.com/get-booked-on-the-top-podcasts

📖 Get Kimberly Spencer’s best-selling book and Boost your brand awareness & Scale your business with the power of STORYTELLING and the strategy of PODCAST GUESTING. https://www.communicationqueens.com/book

🦄Join us for our next Podcast Party! Meet other 6 & 7 figure podcast guests, get booked on podcast interviews, and find your soulmate sponsors! https://www.communicationqueens.com/prosperity-purpose-podcasting-party 

Want an epic guest for your podcast? Explore our Communication Queen celebrities, and we will support you in getting them booked for your next podcast interview: https://www.communicationqueens.com/our-clients 

Enjoy, sovereigns!

💫 1️⃣ Your Business Should Love You Back

Patty drops the mic early:

“You didn’t become a CEO to put out fires all day.”

This episode teaches that your business isn’t meant to own you — it’s meant to serve you. When you design your business around your desired lifestyle, not your to-do list, you build sustainability, joy, and freedom into the foundation.

Takeaway:

 Start with your life vision first — then reverse-engineer your business strategy to support it.

🌿 2️⃣ The Myth of “Do More to Get More”

Patty calls BS on the hustle cult:

“You can actually get more and do less — if you do it right.”

This flips the entire productivity narrative. It’s not about doing everything — it’s about doing the right things, in alignment with your strengths and brilliance.

Takeaway:

 Audit your effort-to-results ratio. What tasks feed your purpose? What drains it? Simplify ruthlessly.

🌟 3️⃣ Lead With Contribution, Not Compensation

One of the most powerful lessons:

“Lead with contribution. Compensation will follow.”

Patty’s entire marketing and relationship philosophy is built on reciprocity. When you give first — whether it’s a LinkedIn recommendation, a podcast shout-out, or genuine visibility for others — you open doors that money alone can’t buy.

Takeaway:

 Shift from “What can I get?” to “How can I serve?” The ROI on generosity is exponential.

🔥 4️⃣ The Three Stages of Business Evolution

Patty breaks business into Startup, Scaling, and Legacy — and gives each a unique success metric:

Startup: Time > Money. Build foundation.

Scaling: Money > Time. Build systems.

Legacy: Impact > Income. Build meaning.

Takeaway:

 Measure your progress not just by profit, but by peace, purpose, and the ripple you’re creating.

💋 5️⃣ Visibility as Relationship Currency

From her “Sandwich Method” for podcast guesting to building authentic visibility, Patty shows that success in media isn’t about fame — it’s about relationships.

Takeaway:

 Every interview, introduction, or post is a potential collaboration — not a one-time transaction.

🌈 6️⃣ Freedom Is the Ultimate Flex

At its heart, this episode is a permission slip to stop glorifying grind and start celebrating alignment.

Takeaway:

 Your joy is not a reward — it’s a requirement. When you lead from joy, you magnetize your audience, clients, and opportunities.

🎧 In short:

This episode is your clarity check.

 It reminds you to:

Redefine success around your soul’s schedule.

Measure your ROI in joy, not just dollars.

Lead with love, not lack.

It’s a whole vibe — strategy meets soul. 💋

“You didn’t become a CEO to put out fires all day.” - Patty Farmer

“I don’t believe you have to do more to get more. You can do less and get more — if you do it right.” - Patty Farmer

“Lead with contribution. Compensation will follow.” - Patty Farmer

Connect with Patty Farmer.

Website: https://pattyfarmer.com/

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/pattyfarmer/

Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/networkingCEO/

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/PattyFarmerCEO/

Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/c/marketingmediamoney

Podcast: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/marketing-media-money/id1486122729

⏱ 00:00 — The Freedom Filter: Why Lifestyle Comes First

 Patty Farmer opens with a truth bomb: not everyone wants yachts and millions — success is personal. Kimberly and Patty discuss why building a business should start with the life you actually want to live.

⏱ 02:00 — Relationships Over Revenue: Patty’s Marketing Philosophy

 Patty reveals her secret sauce — focusing on target buyers instead of target markets and leading from lifestyle alignment, not vanity metrics.

⏱ 05:20 — Defining Your Diamond: The Self-Worth Behind Business Dreams

 Patty’s “engagement ring” metaphor hits hard: if you’re dreaming small, it’s because you think that’s all you deserve. She teaches how to claim the business — and life — you really want.

⏱ 08:00 — From Busy to Brilliant: Why Doing More Isn’t the Answer

 Patty dismantles the hustle myth: “You can get more and do less — if you do it right.” Kimberly explores how to measure results that actually matter.

⏱ 10:00 — The 3 Stages of Business: Startup, Scaling & Legacy

 Patty explains the evolution of business and how to ask the right questions at each stage. The duo dives into mindset, money, and meaning.

⏱ 14:30 — Other People’s People: Networking that Builds Legacy

 Patty and Kimberly discuss how podcasts, speaking, and collaboration expand your reach through other people’s people.

⏱ 17:30 — Reciprocity Is the New Marketing Currency

 Patty breaks down her “LinkedIn Recommendation Strategy” and her famous “Sandwich Method” for podcast guesting — giving first to grow long-term visibility.

⏱ 22:30 — From Podcast Guest to Power Partner

 Patty shows how to turn podcast interviews into deeper collaborations and why relationship-building beats one-and-done guesting every time.

⏱ 26:20 — How to Choose the Right Podcasts (and Say No Gracefully)

 Patty shares how she evaluates podcast opportunities — not by vanity metrics, but by value alignment and contribution potential.

⏱ 31:00 — The Hidden ROI of Podcasting and Speaking

 Kimberly and Patty discuss how visibility leads to relationship-based revenue and the surprising ways small podcasts can yield huge opportunities.

⏱ 36:00 — Micro Shifts, Massive Results: Redefining Over-commitment

 Patty shares the life-changing mindset shift that helped her say no without guilt — and how small realignments lead to big results.

⏱ 40:40 — Purpose-Fueled Profit: Patty’s Powerhouse Coffee Project

 Patty introduces her newest venture — a coffee brand funding entrepreneurship programs for women in coffee-producing countries. Legacy meets leadership.

⏱ 46:10 — Final Mic Drop: How to Build a Business That Feeds Your Soul

 Kimberly and Patty wrap up with a challenge to every entrepreneur: align your business with your joy, your voice, and your purpose.

For a full episode transcript, you can find it here. https://www.communicationqueens.com/blog

For shareable images, quotes, and other social media posts to add some royal sparkle to your socials (with proper tagging and credit, of course), they can be found here.

Communication Queen Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/communicationqueens 

Communication Queen Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/communicationqueensagency 

Communication QueenTikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@communicationqueens 

Communication Queen Pinterest: https://www.pinterest.com/communicationqueens/ 

Communication Queen Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/@communicationqueens 

🎙Subscribe + Listen to the Communication Queens Podcast here:

Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/communication-queen-entrepreneurship-marketing-storytelling/id1718540459 

Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/2ROeliYZG9thhNSMEo8SDx?si=abc7b72eb6274d3b&nd=1&dlsi=fb6df192dfbb4505 

Amazon Music: https://music.amazon.com/podcasts/8d87938f-bfbc-4dac-a60e-b77b652b344c/communication-queen-entrepreneurship-marketing-storytelling-public-speaking-and-podcasting 

Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/@communicationqueens 

Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/kimberlyspencer.crownyourself/ 

Twitter: https://twitter.com/realkimspencer 

Instagram: https://instagram.com/kimberly.spencer 

Linked In: https://linkedin.com/in/kimberlyspencer-crownyourself  

AFFILIATE DISCLAIMER: This description contains affiliate links that allow you to find the items mentioned in this video and support the channel at no cost to you. While this channel may earn minimal sums when the viewer uses the links, the viewer is in NO WAY obligated to use these links. Thanks for your support!

🥰  Loved learning about how to improve your communication skills and get booked on podcast interviews? Listen to this podcast again: https://youtu.be/5K83H1Z2rgU