In Episode 19 of The Chief Exchange Podcast, Alec Wons sits down with Fire Chief Daniel Munsey and Deputy Chief Martin Serna from San Bernardino County Fire Protection District. They delve into the secrets of building a powerful command staff, the strategic decision-making process of hiring from within versus bringing in an outside Chief, and how one firefighter's actions changed the trajectory of their department. This episode also explores the one trait that all successful leaders exhibit and the importance of having a growth mindset. Join us for a conversation filled with insights on leadership, recruitment, and personal passion.