Karl Ulrich interviews Holly Shelton about her startup, Movewith, which helps fitness instructors build personal brands and thriving careers both in the studio and beyond.

Bonus: As a former Apple employee, Holly’s in a position to answer a question that’s been bothering Karl for years: does Apple really not talk to customers? You have to listen to find out.

Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.