Honestly, We're Learning

Building Communities and Claiming Your Value Through Resilience


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On this episode of Honestly, We’re Learning, hosts Leslie Vickrey and Lesly Cardec dive into what happens when you step out of your comfort zone—and why sitting in uncomfortable moments is often the catalyst for our biggest growth.

They are joined by Lamees Abourahma, CEO of the Recruitment Process Outsourcing Association (RPOA). From her roots as a math student organizing college clubs to leading a global trade association, Lamees has organically built communities her entire life. But stepping into the public spotlight didn't come naturally. Lamees opens up about her journey learning more about public speaking through Toastmasters, challenging herself with improv classes, and learning to embrace her role as an industry storyteller.

Leslie, Lesly, and Lamees also tackle a critical conversation for women in the workforce: knowing your worth. They discuss the internal narratives that hold women back from negotiating, the power of mentorship for the next generation, and how RPOA is actively shaping the future of talent acquisition with their brand-new AI task force.

  • Connect with Lamees Abourahma on LinkedIn
  • Learn more about the RPOA
  • Check out RPOA’s new portal: AI and the Future of RPO
  • Listen to RPOA's podcast: Time to Hire

Episode Chapters

2:10 – The parenting struggle of resisting the "rescue" 

10:45 – Lamees’s organic journey from math society president to CEO 

15:58 – Unlearning the fear of public speaking with Toastmasters and improv 

22:53 – How AI is shaping the future of Talent Acquisition and RPO 

25:22 – Knowing your worth and teaching the next generation to negotiate

30:52 - Top 3 Takeaways

About Honestly, We’re Learning

Join ClearEdge’s CEO and founder, Leslie Vickrey, and CMO and SVP of Recruiting, Lesly Cardec, for a raw look at the career turning points that make or break a person. Together, they speak with guests who have handled it all—from successes to roadblocks to pivots—for a candid, witty, never-judgmental exploration of their journey. Focus not just on their wins, but the messy middle—failures, pivots, and lessons learned.

As leaders of a marketing agency that also helps place marketers in roles where they thrive, Leslie and Lesly bring a unique perspective to every conversation—one grounded in both building great brands and great careers. Between guest episodes, they dive into what’s happening in marketing and talent today: the trends reshaping how brands connect, the shifts redefining hiring, and what makes truly impactful marketing happen.

The banter is warm. The coffee is hot. And there’s no need to pretend you have it all figured out because, honestly, we’re all still learning.

Learn more about ClearEdge: https://meetclearedge.com/

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