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In this episode of Empowered & Out: The Career Coaching Podcast, Coach Jon welcomes back Jane Klein, a former corporate leader turned internship coach who helps college students land competitive internships and enter the workforce with more confidence, strategy, and direction.
This conversation gets into the real challenges Gen Z students and early-career professionals are facing right now: internship rejection, ghosting, lack of confidence, networking anxiety, unclear career goals, and the pressure to have everything figured out before they even get started.
Jane and Jon discuss why many students are academically prepared but not always career-ready, why knowing your value matters before walking into an interview, and how rejection can become information instead of proof that you are failing. They also explore how parents, educators, and professionals can better support students as they move from school into adulthood.
This episode is especially helpful for college students, young professionals, parents, internship seekers, and anyone who has ever overthought themselves out of taking the next step.
And Jane’s reminder is one we all need: done is better than perfect.
Episode Chapters
00:00 — Welcome to Empowered & Out
02:25 — Reintroducing Jane Klein
02:38 — Energy check-in
04:03 — Power poses, confidence, and preparing yourself before big moments
07:43 — What changed for Jane after moving
13:24 — What college students are struggling with in today’s internship market
16:44 — Why academics alone do not prepare students for career confidence
21:23 — The confidence gap: experience, rejection, employer expectations, and subconscious patterns
25:30 — Helping students understand their value before they have a long resume
27:31 — How to stop personalizing internship and job rejection
30:47 — Mindset shifts for resilience and confidence
35:35 — Participation awards, rejection, and learning how to improve
38:26 — Using root-cause analysis after interviews and applications
40:14 — Why students need clearer career goals before graduation
01:29:10 — Real examples of networking creating unexpected opportunities
01:49:50 — Jane’s whole-food plant-based lifestyle and intentional living
02:04:41 — Rapid fire questions
02:07:10 — Jane’s final actionable tip: done is better than perfect
By Jonathan BarbeIn this episode of Empowered & Out: The Career Coaching Podcast, Coach Jon welcomes back Jane Klein, a former corporate leader turned internship coach who helps college students land competitive internships and enter the workforce with more confidence, strategy, and direction.
This conversation gets into the real challenges Gen Z students and early-career professionals are facing right now: internship rejection, ghosting, lack of confidence, networking anxiety, unclear career goals, and the pressure to have everything figured out before they even get started.
Jane and Jon discuss why many students are academically prepared but not always career-ready, why knowing your value matters before walking into an interview, and how rejection can become information instead of proof that you are failing. They also explore how parents, educators, and professionals can better support students as they move from school into adulthood.
This episode is especially helpful for college students, young professionals, parents, internship seekers, and anyone who has ever overthought themselves out of taking the next step.
And Jane’s reminder is one we all need: done is better than perfect.
Episode Chapters
00:00 — Welcome to Empowered & Out
02:25 — Reintroducing Jane Klein
02:38 — Energy check-in
04:03 — Power poses, confidence, and preparing yourself before big moments
07:43 — What changed for Jane after moving
13:24 — What college students are struggling with in today’s internship market
16:44 — Why academics alone do not prepare students for career confidence
21:23 — The confidence gap: experience, rejection, employer expectations, and subconscious patterns
25:30 — Helping students understand their value before they have a long resume
27:31 — How to stop personalizing internship and job rejection
30:47 — Mindset shifts for resilience and confidence
35:35 — Participation awards, rejection, and learning how to improve
38:26 — Using root-cause analysis after interviews and applications
40:14 — Why students need clearer career goals before graduation
01:29:10 — Real examples of networking creating unexpected opportunities
01:49:50 — Jane’s whole-food plant-based lifestyle and intentional living
02:04:41 — Rapid fire questions
02:07:10 — Jane’s final actionable tip: done is better than perfect