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Building Empathy-Centered Systems with HR4U Founder, Chason Forehand
What does it look like to design human-centered systems—from the inside out?
In this episode of The By Design Podcast, Julie Johnson sits down with Chasen Forehand, Executive Director of HR4U, to explore how empathy, trauma awareness, and community can transform both workplaces and lives.
Chasen shares his deeply personal journey from trauma and addiction to founding HR4U and Transformation Kitchen—a program that breaks cycles of poverty, homelessness, and food insecurity through living-wage jobs, emotional wellness, and reskilling.
Together, Julie and Chaso unpack:
What “empathy by design” looks like in real-world HR systems
How trauma and overwhelm shape behavior (and how we can meet that with compassion)
Why “hand up, not handout” changes everything
The link between DBT, Tiny Habits, and sustainable recovery
The power of reskilling as both healing and empowerment
💛 Because healing systems starts with healing people—and every spiral forward begins with empathy.
Listen now on The Empathy By Design Podcast wherever you tune in.
Follow Chason Forehand on LinkedIn
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By integratenetworkWhat does it look like to design human-centered systems—from the inside out?
In this episode of The By Design Podcast, Julie Johnson sits down with Chasen Forehand, Executive Director of HR4U, to explore how empathy, trauma awareness, and community can transform both workplaces and lives.
Chasen shares his deeply personal journey from trauma and addiction to founding HR4U and Transformation Kitchen—a program that breaks cycles of poverty, homelessness, and food insecurity through living-wage jobs, emotional wellness, and reskilling.
Together, Julie and Chaso unpack:
What “empathy by design” looks like in real-world HR systems
How trauma and overwhelm shape behavior (and how we can meet that with compassion)
Why “hand up, not handout” changes everything
The link between DBT, Tiny Habits, and sustainable recovery
The power of reskilling as both healing and empowerment
💛 Because healing systems starts with healing people—and every spiral forward begins with empathy.
Listen now on The Empathy By Design Podcast wherever you tune in.
Follow Chason Forehand on LinkedIn
Download our App