In this episode, Mike and John are joined by Jenn Fluke to discuss the benefits of outdoor recreation in combating burnout. Jenn shares about her project, Inspiring Wild Hearts, which aims to help women overcome their fears and connect with nature. The conversation emphasizes the importance of resilience, pushing oneself, and finding balance in work and personal life through outdoor recreation as well as discusses the challenges of loneliness and social isolation, and the role of outdoor activities in building friendships and communities.