In the tenth instalment of the SJUK Leaders in Security Podcast, Security Journal UK's Digital Content Editor, Eve Goode, is joined by Katie Barnett, Director of Cyber Security and Gavin Wilson, Director of Physical Security and Risk at Toro Solutions.

In this episode, Katie and Gavin discuss the evolving landscape of operational resilience - where cyber, physical and people security now converge into a single, integrated discipline. Through a series of thought-provoking questions, we explore how organisations can better prepare for crises, identify behavioural indicators earlier and support their teams emotionally as well as operationally. Listeners will gain practical insight into building a proactive security culture that is resilient, adaptive and ready for the complexities of modern risk.

Katie brings fifteen years of experience spanning IT operations, government-level assurance and high-stakes international projects. Operating at CISO level, she specialises in assessing cyber maturity, closing gaps against leading standards and simplifying complex ecosystems into clear, robust security strategies. Having delivered cybersecurity and risk programmes across Europe, Africa, the Middle East and beyond, Katie’s approach blends technical expertise with strong stakeholder engagement to drive meaningful, sustainable improvement.

Gavin has built a distinguished global career leading security operations, protecting people and assets and shaping best practice across major organisations. A recognised industry voice, he contributes regularly through publications, whitepapers and speaking engagements on the future of physical security. As a specialist in security design, a SABRE Registered Assessor and a founder in digital risk technology, Gavin brings deep expertise in standards-based assurance, behavioural risk and integrating physical security into wider organisational resilience.