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In this episode of The Policy Playbook, I sit down with Frank Rygiel, a leader who understands what responsibility really looks like when decisions impact people, operations, and outcomes.

Frank shares candid insight on leadership, ownership, and the realities business leaders face that rarely get discussed openly. We talk about decision making under pressure, long term thinking, and why consistency and accountability matter more than trends or titles.

This is a grounded, practical conversation for leaders who carry real responsibility and want to build organizations that last.

If you are responsible for people, performance, or risk, this episode will resonate.

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