Most companies look great on the outside — but inside, people are burned out and disconnected. That's not a people problem. It's a system problem.

In this episode, Pasitaua Haufano sits down with Nicholas Thomson, founder of Iceberg, to unpack what self-management actually looks like in practice — and how leaders can build teams where people have real ownership, real responsibility, and real say.

What we cover:

• Why high-performing companies still leave people feeling empty
• How decisions, information, and power need to shift
• Practical steps you can take right now

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