In this episode of Frameworks for Growth, Vanta CEO Christina Cacioppo sits down with Daniela Amodei, President and Co-founder of Anthropic, to discuss what it takes to build both a mission-driven company and a cutting-edge AI research lab.

They explore how Daniela approaches hiring with intention, how to scale responsibly in the age of AI, and what it means to build trust while working on transformative technologies like Claude.

🔑 Topics covered:

00:17 - Introduction

00:45 - Anthropic as an AI safety and research company

02:22 - Balance technical research and commercializing

04:21 - Public benefit corporations (PBCs)

05:50 - Hiring lessons from Anthropic and OpenAI

08:03 - Articulating company values

09:33 - Aligning new employees on company values

12:39 - Non-obvious traits when hiring

15:25 - Balancing thoughtfulness and simplicity with engineering hires

18:50 - Common misconceptions about the future of AI

20:05 - Enterprises are bullish on AI

21:29 - What will be true about AI in 2035

22:57 - Co-founding a company with your sibling

24:08 - A moment where you realized the future is here

25:15 - What Daniela’s reading

25:54 - Interest in East African government and advising them on AI

27:29 - Incorporating as a PBC was the right move

28:25 - Deciding on how to structure their hardware

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