Pat sits down with CEO James Sackl chatting about how he met Matt and how they started their partnership. While Matt jumps into risk in the front lines of sales and closing deals, James uses his strengths in risk management, being the glue that keeps the company together. James delves in depth about the logistics about running a business from a start up with 2 people, to now managing hundreds of employees, and the difficulties and challenges that come with building one of the fastest growing company in Australia. 

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