Clare coaches the role nobody talks about: the COO or CFO sat next to a founder CEO, expected to challenge the person who built the company and signs their pay cheque. Most coaches work with the founder. Clare works almost exclusively with the number two, which gives her a different read on why these relationships succeed or quietly fail.

In this episode she breaks down what "permission to challenge" actually requires beyond the sentence itself, why founders should look at their own behaviour before blaming a number two's performance, and the question every founder should ask if they're not sure they've got the right person in that seat. If you've got a strong number two who's still holding back, this is the conversation that explains why.

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