Pastor Joby Martin and Denny Thompson sit down with Edwin Martin on this week’s episode of Built 4 More.

At 20 years old, Edwin was hiding a four year gambling addiction that nearly cost him his life. He was borrowing money he couldn’t repay, carrying debts no one knew about, and placing bets from the church pew while claiming to follow Jesus.

It ended with Edwin alone on his bathroom floor, ready to take his own life. He prayed one desperate prayer: “God, if You are real, reveal Yourself.” Ten seconds later, his best friend unexpectedly texted him three words: “I love you.” That text interrupted Edwin’s darkest moment, and the friend who sent it would eventually lead him to Christ.

Five years later, Edwin is an endurance athlete using every mile to point people toward hope. He recently ran 133.2 miles on a treadmill for 24 hours straight at a 10:49 minute per mile pace to raise money for suicide prevention. Months earlier, he ran across the entire state of South Carolina to support families battling cancer.

Joby, Denny, and Edwin talk about the gambling epidemic hiding in plain sight, how sports betting is being engineered to keep people hooked, the difference between Jesus plus something and Jesus alone, why the enemy doesn’t care how he hooks you, and what can happen when you obey a nudge from God. They also discuss fitness without fulfillment, stewarding your body as an act of worship, and The Ship, which is Edwin’s mission to mentor fatherless boys.

If you have ever hidden a struggle behind a smile or wondered whether your story can still be redeemed, this conversation is for you.

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Chapters:

00:00 Meet Edwin Martin

00:24 Running 133 Miles in 24 Hours

02:08 Running Across South Carolina

02:55 The Transformation Photo

06:05 Why Edwin Runs for Suicide Prevention

06:23 The Gambling Addiction Nobody Knew About

06:53 The Text That Saved His Life

07:45 Sports Betting’s Hidden Cost

08:54 How to Know When You Have a Problem

10:27 You Can Bet on Anything Now

12:49 Is Jesus Really Enough?

13:08 The Enemy Doesn’t Care How He Hooks You

14:43 Why Monday Night Football Exists

17:07 They’re Engineering Your Brain

18:56 The Friend Who Led Edwin to Christ

21:34 Why He Walked Away From the Navy SEALs

22:16 The Text That Changed His Path

23:07 When God Tells You to Text Someone

24:55 The Hardest Text Joby Ever Sent

27:33 Three Phone Calls That Saved Three Lives

31:11 A Message for Anyone in a Dark Place

32:11 The Messages That Keep Coming

33:24 The Biggest Struggles Facing His Generation

35:58 Fitness Without Fulfillment

37:00 Running Is Just the Vehicle

38:04 The Greyhound Chasing a Fake Rabbit

40:48 The Antidote Nobody Wants to Hear

45:04 Can Working Out Glorify God?

47:26 Work Is Worship

48:06 Joby’s 30-Pound Comeback

51:19 Love God With All Your Strength

54:53 Seized by a Greater Affection

59:35 You Only Have One Life

1:01:04 Jesus Plus Something Isn’t Jesus

1:01:44 The Ship: Mentoring Fatherless Boys

1:03:41 Who Will Pick Up Your Mat?

1:10:18 No More Casual Christianity

1:12:54 Your Story Isn’t Over

1:15:10 Project Savior Outdoors

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Pastor Joby Martin and Denny Thompson sit down with Jacksonville Jaguars head coach Liam Coen on this week's episode of Built 4 More.

Liam was a four-year starting quarterback at UMass where he still holds multiple school passing records. He spent nearly a decade grinding through small Northeast programs  Brown, Rhode Island, and Maine, writing handwritten letters and knocking on every NFL door he could find, until one relationship finally got him in with Sean McVay and the Rams. A few years later he's the head coach of the Jacksonville Jaguars, and in year one he took a franchise that had been going nowhere and led it to 13 wins and a division championship.

But long before any of that, Liam walked through the hardest thing of his life. He opens up about losing his mother, Beth after  a four year battle with Lyme disease while he was in college and his dad was in the hospital. He talks honestly about burying that grief for a decade, the way it eventually crept up and started to eat at him, the mental health toll of pretending he was fine, and how a real relationship with Jesus finally brought him grace, forgiveness, and healing.

Joby, Denny, and Liam talk about authenticity and why players "sniff out a fraud" instantly, the permission to fail that unlocked Trevor Lawrence, why he deleted all of his social media, the difference between a hero and a warrior, why "balance doesn't exist," what Travis Hunter really brings to the locker room, and what it looks like to stop trying to be someone else and become who God actually made you.

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Chapters:

00:00 – Meet Coach Liam Coen

04:36 – Why He Fell in Love With Jacksonville

07:11 – How He Turned the Jaguars Around

09:48 – Did He Know Trevor Could Be This?

10:19 – Watching Trevor Lawrence as a Freshman

13:17 – "Go Be You": Unlocking Trevor

15:28 – The Permission to Fail

18:21 – Why He Stopped Trying to Be Other Coaches

20:17 – The Houston Collapse

21:12 – Hero vs. Warrior: The Meeting That Turned the Season

24:59 – The Youngest Staff in NFL History

27:24 – "Do I Belong Here?"

30:25 – The Night He Knew He Belonged

32:39 – What Sean McVay Taught Him About People

33:32 – Tony Boselli and the Standard

35:18 – The Travis Hunter Trade

35:44 – The Real Travis Hunter

39:34 – From UMass QB to NFL Head Coach

40:38 – How He Went From Maine to the Rams

46:37 – "We'll Play Anybody, Anywhere, Anytime"

49:22 – The Pressure of High Expectations

51:56 – Losing His Mom

55:07 – The Trauma He Buried for 10 Years

55:50 – How Faith Brought Him Grace and Forgiveness

59:05 – The Cleats and the Holy Spirit

1:00:38 – The Myth of "There"

1:01:28 – The Question That Made Him Quit Social Media

1:03:26 – Why Balance Doesn't Exist

1:05:48 – Family Days and Putting People First

1:08:22 – Why He's Grateful to Coach in Jacksonville

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Pastor Joby Martin and Denny Thompson sit down with Pro Football Hall of Famer Tony Boselli on this week's episode of Built 4 More. Tony was one of the most dominant left tackles to ever play the game. The first draft pick in Jacksonville Jaguars history, the best in the world at what he did. Then, at thirty years old and at the top of his game, a shoulder injury ended all of it. In an instant, the one thing he was great at was gone, and Tony was left away from everyone he knew, depressed, angry at God, and asking the question that leveled him: who am I without football?

Tony shares what those years actually did to him. Being told his shoulder would never work again at the peak of his career. Lying in bed as a grown man wondering where God's protection went. The morning he realized four little kids and a wife were watching to see what kind of man he would be. And the thought that finally broke it open, if God had told him at eighteen that he would get USC, the NFL, a Hall of Fame career, and then have it all taken at thirty, would he still have said yes?

Joby, Denny, and Tony talk about identity, the battle with control, why success never actually tells you who you are, learning to count it all joy in the middle of suffering, and the Bible study that started with a handful of Jaguars players in 1996 and grew into a church. Tony also opens up about his role as Executive Vice President of Football Operations, why his entire job comes down to one sentence, making other people successful, and what it really looks like to finally stop trying to be God.

If you have ever built your whole identity on the thing you are best at, this conversation is for you.

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Chapters:

00:00 – Meet Tony Boselli

02:22 – Three Strangers, One Standard

04:15 – You Can Be Talented and Still Get Cut

07:10 – Why Shad Khan Hired Us

08:18 – The Executive Assistant Who Became a GM

11:32 – "My Only Job Is to Make Them Successful"

12:16 – Humility Is a Posture, Not a Personality

14:29 – One Ego Can Burn the Whole Thing Down

15:53 – The Houston Game and the Ghost of "Old Jacksonville"

21:09 – The Meeting That Turned the Season

21:57 – Eight Straight Wins and a New Offense

26:24 – The Offensive Line Is a Picture of the Gospel

31:33 – What Tom Coughlin Taught Him

39:32 – "We Get Paid More Than We Deserve"

41:53 – The Injury That Ended His Career

43:19 – His Wife Became His Rock

46:08 – The Thing You're Stressed About Was Once Your Prayer

48:16 – Trying to Be God Will Wreck You

50:18 – Consider It Pure Joy

52:07 – Learning to Enjoy the Suffering

59:53 – "I'd Be Lying If I Said I Don't Like Being a Hall of Famer"

1:00:17 – What He Values More Than the Gold Jacket

1:03:05 – The Bible Study That Became a Church

1:13:34 – "Dad, I Got Saved"

1:20:00 – Why Broadcasting Left Him Empty

1:25:44 – David in the Pasture: Preparation, Not Punishment

1:31:47 – "The More My Guys Are With You, the Less Likely They Are to Go to Jail"

1:35:29 – Crisis Is a Terrible Calendar

1:37:36 – We've Never Been Their Age in This Age

1:44:32 – Why the Draft Is the Most Misunderstood Event in Sports

1:54:30 – The Man Behind the Hall of Famer

Pastor Joby Martin and Denny Thompson sit down with Super Bowl champion and former NFL punter Steve Weatherford on this week's episode of Built 4 More.

Steve spent ten years in the NFL, won a Super Bowl, made the cover of Men's Health, and became known as the fittest man in professional football. From the outside, he had everything. On the inside, he was addicted to pain pills, trapped in pornography, and standing at a window at two in the morning after the biggest win of his life wondering why he felt nothing at all.

Steve shares the story he rarely tells. Being cut in a locker room at twenty five years old and having to ask the groundskeeper for a ride. Hearing a street preacher through a hotel window seventeen floors up saying the exact words he needed. Being abused as a child by a Christian teacher and spending the next twenty four years trying to prove he was enough. And the night in a circus tent in the desert when everything finally broke open.

Joby, Denny, and Steve talk about identity, addiction, the lie that achievement will finally fill the hole, confession and healing in marriage, why encouragement makes you a leader, and what it actually looks like to be transformed instead of just informed.

If you have ever chased something believing it would finally make you enough, this conversation is for you.

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Chapters:

00:00 – Meet Steve Weatherford

01:20 – Cut in the Locker Room

04:50 – The Street Preacher Outside the Window

07:10 – Jacksonville and the Jeep on Beach Boulevard

12:50 – Ten Years in the NFL as an Undrafted Free Agent

13:10 – "Winning the Super Bowl Was the Most Depressing Night of My Life"

15:15 – The Goals He Wrote Down at Fourteen

15:20 – The Abuse That Made Him Question If God Was Real

16:35 – The Night He Won It All and Felt Nothing

17:25 – The Greyhound and the Fake Rabbit

22:30 – Pills, Porn, and the Life Nobody Saw

24:20 – Leaving His Wife and Kids

25:05 – Walking Into Church for the First Time in Twenty Years

28:00 – The Burden Board

29:10 – The Man Who Led Him to Christ at Eleven

32:25 – His Son Gives His Life to Jesus

36:00 – The Deceitfulness of Sin

41:30 – From Competition to Completion

48:40 – Working For Victory vs From Victory

55:35 – Fighting the Devil in the Dark

57:45 – Confession, Marriage, and Healing

1:02:00 – Why Discipline Could Not Save Him

1:05:20 – Identity Comes First

1:13:30 – The Game Film in Heaven

1:26:35 – What Surprises Him Now

1:32:45 – Change Your Inputs

1:40:30 – Get in the Dust of the Right Men

1:44:40 – "I Got This" Is the Most Dangerous Thing a Man Can Say

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Pastor Joby Martin and Denny Thompson sit down with actor, filmmaker, and former police officer Jim Klock on this week's episode of Built 4 More.

Before Jim ever stepped onto a Hollywood set, he spent a decade serving as a police officer and undercover narcotics detective. He loved the job, but God began calling him somewhere he never expected. What followed was a journey of faith that took him from the streets of Virginia to some of the biggest productions in Hollywood.

Jim shares how a late-night security shift led him to Christ, why he walked away from a career he loved, and how God opened doors that eventually led him to work alongside some of the biggest names in the film industry. But more than anything, this conversation is about learning to trust God's calling, choosing humility over recognition, and using every opportunity to encourage the people around you.

Joby, Denny, and Jim discuss the difference between passion and purpose, what it's really like to be a Christian in Hollywood, the danger of pride, why encouragement matters, leadership, identity, and what success actually looks like when your life is centered on Christ.

If you've ever wrestled with stepping into God's calling or wondered if He's asking you to leave what's comfortable for something greater, this conversation is for you.

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Chapters:

00:00 – Meet Jim Klock

01:25 – From Drama Student to Police Officer

04:25 – The Night Jim Gave His Life to Christ

07:55 – Undercover Narcotics & Finding His Calling

11:45 – Leaving the Career He Loved

16:20 – Passion vs. God's Assignment

22:45 – Faith Requires Action

27:30 – From Cop to Hollywood

33:45 – Is Hollywood Really Anti-Christian?

39:15 – Keanu Reeves & Humility

43:00 – The Power of Encouragement

47:00 – Sharing Your Faith in Hollywood

50:00 – Changing Hollywood's Culture

56:30 – Success, Identity & Purpose

1:07:10 – Playing Villains Without Losing Yourself

1:12:00 – Giving People More Grace

1:17:00 – Transactional vs. Transformational Leadership

1:24:00 – Fame, Validation & Identity

1:29:45 – What Success Really Looks Like

1:38:00 – The Roles That Changed Jim's Life

1:49:50 – Building Healthy Culture on Set

1:57:00 – Leadership, Teamwork & Hollywood

2:02:45 – The Film That Meant the Most

2:05:20 – Final Thoughts

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Pastor Joby Martin and Denny Thompson sit down with Green Beret John Wayne Walding on this week's episode of Built 4 More.

Born on the Fourth of July and named after the Western legend, John Wayne Walding lost his right leg in the Battle of Shok Valley, one of the most intense firefights since Vietnam. He tied it off with a tourniquet and kept fighting for hours until every one of his brothers made it off the mountain alive.

But the war was only the beginning. John woke up the next morning with one leg and a choice: be a victim or be a victor. He chose to never quit. He ran the Boston Marathon on a hand cycle, became the first amputee to requalify as a Green Beret sniper, got 14 years sober, and surrendered his life to Christ. In this conversation he shares the warrior mindset that carried him off that mountain and now drives his faith, and the conviction he lives by every single day: I owe it to the fallen to live well.

This is a raw and powerful conversation about courage, identity, and what it actually costs to be free. Joby, Denny, and John Wayne dig into the true story of the Battle of Shok Valley, the faith of America's founders 250 years after the Revolution, why God never calls anyone to easy, why struggle is good, spiritual warfare and the tactics of the enemy, and the difference between earning grace and walking worthy of it.

If you have ever felt like your hardest season was the end of your story, this one is for you.

This week on Built 4 More, Pastor Joby Martin and Denny Thompson sit down alone. Just the two of them answering listener questions.

They open on what may be the most common question in the inbox. What do you do after baptism when you find yourself back in the same sin you thought you left behind. Joby walks through the difference between conviction and condemnation, the three tenses of salvation, and why the instinct to clean yourself up before coming back to God is the exact opposite of what God actually wants from you.

The conversation moves through some of the heaviest questions you have asked. Discerning God's calling on your life versus your own ambition. Carrying the burden of leading a family when the world feels heavier than it used to. Supporting a husband struggling with his identity. Loving a family member fighting suicidal thoughts. Raising an athlete without putting a weight on them they were never meant to carry. Talking to the friend who says they want to believe but cannot get there. What it actually looks like to tithe when every dollar feels accounted for.

Pastor Joby Martin and Denny Thompson sit down with Josh Turner on this week's episode of Built 4 More. Josh is a pastor, the founder of the 10:10 Project, and the father of Riley, a 19-year-old with a rare genetic disorder who has had 33 surgeries, sleeps on a ventilator, and just graduated high school.

When Riley was born, three doctors walked into the hospital room and told Josh and his wife Becca she would live a year and they would have to decide when to let her go. Riley is now 19, preaches across the country, and one day told her dad to stop praying for her healing because God made her this way on purpose.

In this conversation, Josh opens up about walking through suffering publicly, why he stopped asking God why, what NT Wright told him that changed everything, and the morning he lost a friend in ministry that led him to start the 10:10 Project. Joby and Denny dig into burnout, why 42 percent of pastors want to leave the ministry, the danger of success, and what it actually looks like to build rhythms that keep you healthy for the long haul.

This is one of the most honest conversations we've had on Built 4 More about suffering, faith, and what God does when you can't figure out why.

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Pastor Joby Martin and Denny Thompson sit down with Ruslan KD on this week's episode of Built 4 More.

Ruslan came to America as an Armenian refugee, found Jesus in Southern California, and built one of the most recognizable voices covering Christian content. He started as a rapper, became a commentator, wrote a book on godly ambition, and now hosts the Bless God conference.

This conversation is about what happens when the algorithm starts doing the job the local church was meant to do. Ruslan gets honest about his own turn away from the tear down content that built his platform, why the stuff that goes viral is often the worst thing for your soul, and why nobody actually gets discipled through a screen. From there the three of them dig into godly ambition versus selfish ambition, why contentment is the launchpad and not the finish line, what it looks like to love God with your body and not just your mind, and how wisdom usually shows up as restraint when the whole culture is begging you to react.

It is one of the more layered conversations we have had on the show, and it will make you rethink the content you consume and the life you are actually building.

Pastor Joby Martin and Denny Thompson sit down with Drew Parker on this week's episode of Built 4 More.

Drew Parker is one of the most successful songwriters in country music. He wrote Homemade for Jake Owen, Stay Country or Die Trying for Blake Shelton, and Doing This for Luke Combs, a song that earned a Grammy nomination for Best Country Song. Four number one songs. Stadium tours. The Grand Ole Opry. A weekend on stage with Willie Nelson. By every measure, he had made it.

But Drew had been a believer his whole life, and at the very top of his career he could not shake the feeling that something was missing. He had chased the dream all the way from a small town in Georgia to Nashville, and it still was not enough. So he prayed and asked God to make it clear what he was supposed to do next. Days later his manager called him shaking. A skeptic who had never had a kind word for faith. He said he had been waking up in the middle of the night hearing that Drew was supposed to sing songs about Jesus.

Drew walked away from his record deal at the peak of his career. He put out his testimony in a song called Blame Jesus. He is still writing country music, but now he is using the same gift to point people to Christ.

In this conversation Drew opens up about the emptiness of chasing success, what it actually costs to follow Jesus, surrendering a dream he spent his whole life building, and how God was chasing him the entire time.