This week on Built 4 More, Pastor Joby Martin and Denny Thompson sit down alone. Just the two of them answering listener questions.

They open on what may be the most common question in the inbox. What do you do after baptism when you find yourself back in the same sin you thought you left behind. Joby walks through the difference between conviction and condemnation, the three tenses of salvation, and why the instinct to clean yourself up before coming back to God is the exact opposite of what God actually wants from you.

The conversation moves through some of the heaviest questions you have asked. Discerning God's calling on your life versus your own ambition. Carrying the burden of leading a family when the world feels heavier than it used to. Supporting a husband struggling with his identity. Loving a family member fighting suicidal thoughts. Raising an athlete without putting a weight on them they were never meant to carry. Talking to the friend who says they want to believe but cannot get there. What it actually looks like to tithe when every dollar feels accounted for.

Pastor Joby Martin and Denny Thompson sit down with Josh Turner on this week's episode of Built 4 More. Josh is a pastor, the founder of the 10:10 Project, and the father of Riley, a 19-year-old with a rare genetic disorder who has had 33 surgeries, sleeps on a ventilator, and just graduated high school.

When Riley was born, three doctors walked into the hospital room and told Josh and his wife Becca she would live a year and they would have to decide when to let her go. Riley is now 19, preaches across the country, and one day told her dad to stop praying for her healing because God made her this way on purpose.

In this conversation, Josh opens up about walking through suffering publicly, why he stopped asking God why, what NT Wright told him that changed everything, and the morning he lost a friend in ministry that led him to start the 10:10 Project. Joby and Denny dig into burnout, why 42 percent of pastors want to leave the ministry, the danger of success, and what it actually looks like to build rhythms that keep you healthy for the long haul.

This is one of the most honest conversations we've had on Built 4 More about suffering, faith, and what God does when you can't figure out why.

Learn more about the 10:10 Project: 1010project.com

Pastor Joby Martin and Denny Thompson sit down with Ruslan KD on this week's episode of Built 4 More.

Ruslan came to America as an Armenian refugee, found Jesus in Southern California, and built one of the most recognizable voices covering Christian content. He started as a rapper, became a commentator, wrote a book on godly ambition, and now hosts the Bless God conference.

This conversation is about what happens when the algorithm starts doing the job the local church was meant to do. Ruslan gets honest about his own turn away from the tear down content that built his platform, why the stuff that goes viral is often the worst thing for your soul, and why nobody actually gets discipled through a screen. From there the three of them dig into godly ambition versus selfish ambition, why contentment is the launchpad and not the finish line, what it looks like to love God with your body and not just your mind, and how wisdom usually shows up as restraint when the whole culture is begging you to react.

It is one of the more layered conversations we have had on the show, and it will make you rethink the content you consume and the life you are actually building.

Pastor Joby Martin and Denny Thompson sit down with Drew Parker on this week's episode of Built 4 More.

Drew Parker is one of the most successful songwriters in country music. He wrote Homemade for Jake Owen, Stay Country or Die Trying for Blake Shelton, and Doing This for Luke Combs, a song that earned a Grammy nomination for Best Country Song. Four number one songs. Stadium tours. The Grand Ole Opry. A weekend on stage with Willie Nelson. By every measure, he had made it.

But Drew had been a believer his whole life, and at the very top of his career he could not shake the feeling that something was missing. He had chased the dream all the way from a small town in Georgia to Nashville, and it still was not enough. So he prayed and asked God to make it clear what he was supposed to do next. Days later his manager called him shaking. A skeptic who had never had a kind word for faith. He said he had been waking up in the middle of the night hearing that Drew was supposed to sing songs about Jesus.

Drew walked away from his record deal at the peak of his career. He put out his testimony in a song called Blame Jesus. He is still writing country music, but now he is using the same gift to point people to Christ.

In this conversation Drew opens up about the emptiness of chasing success, what it actually costs to follow Jesus, surrendering a dream he spent his whole life building, and how God was chasing him the entire time.

Pastor Joby Martin and Denny Thompson sit down with Matt Chandler on this week's episode of Built 4 More. Matt is the lead pastor of The Village Church in Texas and has spent more than two decades as one of the most listened to pastors in the country.

Most of us were sold a version of faith that goes straight up and to the right. Follow Jesus, and life gets cleaner, easier, better. Matt's new book Becoming Like Jesus tells the truth instead. The Christian life is a coil of highs and lows, and every low is still moving you forward. The seasons that feel like failure are usually the seasons God is using to form you.

In this conversation, Joby, Denny, and Matt get into why you sin less and feel worse the longer you walk with Jesus, why we run from God when we should be running to Him, how lesser loves quietly steal our hunger for the things that matter, and why isolation is one of the enemy's most effective weapons against men. Matt also opens up about his brain cancer diagnosis and what suffering taught him about the goodness of God.

If your faith feels stuck, or you have wondered whether a hard season means you are doing something wrong, this one is for you.

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Pastor Joby Martin and Denny Thompson sit down with Pastor Tim Timberlake on this week’s episode of Built 4 More.

Tim Timberlake is a pastor, communicator, and leader at Celebration Church in Jacksonville, Florida. In this conversation, Tim opens up about the pain that shaped his life, from walking through his father’s cancer diagnosis as a young boy, running from God, getting shot at 16 years old, and eventually having a dream that changed the direction of his life forever.

Tim talks about what it means to suffer well, how pain can build humility, character, and godly integrity, and why the fruit God produces through suffering is not just for you, but for the people around you.

The conversation also goes deep on leadership, criticism, and what it looks like to keep your hands and heart clean when you are being attacked. Tim shares how he navigated one of the most painful church transitions imaginable, why he refused to clap back, and why he believes you cannot let pain, frustration, or public opinion speak for you.

They also talk about the idols of comfort and the fear of man, the character it takes to lead well, the importance of suffering with your eyes fixed on Jesus, and why the decisions you make are ultimately making you.

The guys also get into football, the Jacksonville Jaguars, Travis Hunter’s baptism, what culture really means inside a locker room, and how God can use influence, pain, leadership, and obedience for something much bigger than yourself.

If you are walking through pain, criticism, leadership pressure, spiritual warfare, or a season you never would have chosen, this episode is for you.

In this episode of Built 4 More, Denny Thompson and Pastor Joby Martin sit down with Garrett Gross. Garrett is an ex MMA fighter, gym owner, father, and one of the most unlikely men to be doing what he's doing today.For 15 years, Garrett competed as a professional MMA fighter while losing a fight off the mat that had nothing to do with the sport. He tried to fix it, but kept falling. He started to wonder if this was just who he was.Then one morning everything changed. Not because of a program or a plan. Just a parking lot, a quiet moment, and a God who had been working in his life long before Garrett was ready to admit it.Three years later, Garrett is running an MMA gym in small town Illinois that's become an actual mission field. Men are showing up and encountering Christ. A weekly Bible study is forming the kind of community most churches struggle to build, and he's leveraging the way God wired him to reach people the church was never going to reach on its own.Whether you're in the middle of your own fight or trying to figure out what God is doing with the pieces of your past this one will speak directly to where you are.

For the first time, Pastor Joby Martin and Denny Thompson bring their wives into the studio. Gretchen Martin and Angie Thompson sit down to answer questions submitted by listeners on marriage, motherhood, ministry, and everything in between. Joby and Gretchen have been married 26 years. Denny and Angie have been married 28. Between them they've planted a church, built a quarterback training business, raised four kids, and walked through seasons that nothing about looked like the plan.In this episode, Gretchen gives the behind the scenes of building The Church of Eleven22 from the ground up. And Angie gives the behind the scenes of Denny building one of the premiere quarterback training businesses in the country.The conversation goes deep on what the Bible actually says about submission and respect. Why secrets are exhausting. What it looks like to pray out loud over your spouse. And the "do over" hack that changed the way Joby and Gretchen work through conflict.

Scott Hanson has one of the most recognizable jobs in American sports. As the host of NFL Red Zone, he speaks to more people on Sunday than almost anyone on the planet. More Americans will spend time watching NFL football this weekend than they will sitting in a church. Scott knows that better than anyone.But behind the highlight reels and the touchdown calls was a guy who had made his career his god and still could not shake the feeling that something was missing.In this episode, Scott sits down with Pastor Joby Martin and Denny Thompson and opens up about hitting the lowest point of his life at 25 years old, when a broken relationship cost him everything he thought he had. His personal life. His professional life. All of it at once.What happened next started with a random trip to Blockbuster Video, a movie about Jesus, and a football coach in Springfield, Illinois who refused to be ashamed of the name of Jesus on a Friday night. Scott had no idea that coach's faithfulness was about to change his life forever.The conversation also goes deep on what God is doing through the NFL right now, why young men are turning back to faith, and what it actually looks like to be salt and light when 10 million people are watching.

Rich Froning is the most decorated athlete in CrossFit history. 4 individual titles. Multiple team championships. A legacy that the sport has never seen before and may never see again. But behind all of it was a guy who kept winning and kept wondering why it wasn't enough.

In this episode, Rich sits down with Pastor Joby Martin and Denny Thompson and opens up about what it actually felt like to be the best in the world. The obsession it took to get there. The emptiness that followed every gold medal. And the moment faith stopped being something he grew up around and became something he actually lived.

Rich also shares the story of how he and his wife walked through years of unexplained infertility, how God used a pregnancy clinic in Cookville, Tennessee to bring them their first daughter, and how that one moment changed the entire direction of his life. All three of his kids are adopted. None of it was the plan. All of it was God.

The conversation also goes deep on what Rich is building now. A men's discipleship group out of his barn on Saturday mornings. A faith driven gym culture that doesn't apologize for the name of Jesus. And what it looks like to trade competing for yourself for something that actually lasts.