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Pastor Joby Martin and Denny Thompson sit down with Shayne Boyle, better known as Insane Shayne, on this week's episode of Built 4 More. Shayne has millions of followers from making videos catching marshmallows in his mouth, playing full tackle basketball with guys twice his size, being on America's Got Talent, touring with Dude Perfect, and now takes his crew to youth groups and churches across the country.

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Chapters

00:00 Meet Insane Shayne

00:38 From College Football to Catching Marshmallows

06:27 The Grape Tapes and a Million Views

08:38 Telling Your Dad You Want to Be a YouTuber

11:36 The Career Advice Dude Perfect Ignored

14:32 Choose Better Heroes for Your Kids

22:34 Shock Collar Free Throws and Other Bad Ideas

31:45 What Can I Do for the Kingdom If I'm Not a Preacher?

33:32 Pay Attention to Your Weird Talents

38:46 How His Faith Actually Grew

49:46 How to Know If It's Really God Speaking

50:04 Why Paul Would Be the Worst Counselor

1:00:50 If You Hide From Dad, You Don't Get the Gospel

1:14:47 If It's From God, You Can't Stop It

1:19:23 You Can Be a Christian Who Makes Content

Pastor Joby Martin and Denny Thompson sit down with New York Times bestselling author Charles Martin on this week’s episode of Built 4 More. Charles walked on at Georgia Tech until a broken vertebra ended the football dream he shared with his dad. He waited hours to make the call. His dad’s answer: “If I leave right now, I can be there by supper.”

Years later, Charles turned down a six-figure job to pursue writing, while his wife Christy stood with him through 86 rejection letters. He tells those stories, shares how he and Joby began writing books together, and talks about the question behind his new book, *The Reason for Jesus*: Do you know God as your Father? This episode is about what happens when your identity falls apart, what it costs to follow a calling, and why Jesus came to make the Father known.

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CHAPTERS

0:00 Meet Charles Martin

1:52 Walking on at Georgia Tech

7:15 The hit that ended the football dream

10:17 “I can be there by supper”

15:15 When your son’s game becomes your identity

24:52 What happened at Saturated

33:16 Why Charles started writing at 15

39:53 A six-figure offer and a novel in a drawer

46:58 Rejection number 86

55:02 Why Charles almost said no to writing with Joby

1:07:42 “Do you think of Me as your Father?”

1:11:02 What changed when Charles prayed “Abba”

1:13:41 Why Jesus came

1:19:29 How Joby and Charles write books together

1:37:15 What the Father showed Charles about his own heart

1:39:51 No condemnation and nothing can separate you from His love

1:41:36 You are a son or daughter first

Pastor Joby Martin and Denny Thompson sit down with Shane Winnings, the CEO of Promise Keepers, on this week's episode of Built 4 More. Before he led a national men's ministry, Shane was an Army officer and jumpmaster, then a police officer in one of the most violent stretches of Washington State.

He has been shot at in war, and the thing that scared him most was walking up to a stranger to talk about Jesus. This episode is about where that fear comes from, why it hits Christians who are brave everywhere else, and the simple rule that finally beat it.

CHAPTERS

(0:00) Army officer, cop, and now the man running Promise Keepers

(2:18) The night on his bed and one sentence from God

(5:23) Quitting the badge with a pregnant wife, funded in 19 days

(8:05) Shot at in war, still scared of a stranger in a park

(9:35) The stranger you're avoiding might have prayed last night

(13:17) Joby's 14,000 foot jump with a team of Navy SEALs

(19:47) Why reps kill fear in every arena

(22:50) You cannot argue anyone into heaven

(34:30) Never apologize for the anointing

(48:43) The past that Romans 8 never mentions

(52:39) Where's the line between the pulpit and politics?

(1:11:21) Would Jesus abdicate his role as a citizen?

(1:23:58) The night Charlie Kirk died, from this studio

(1:32:35) You can hate his values. He is still a person.

(1:38:43) Demons are discipling your kids 30 feet away

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Pastor Joby Martin and Denny Thompson sit down and work through the questions you have been sending in, plus how the merch drop is going to run.

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Chapters:

2:09 The Big Announcement

4:30 Saturated Is Coming

10:14 Learning to Follow Jesus as a Grown Man

15:53 God's Will Is About Who You're Becoming

21:18 Six Baptisms on an Elk Hunt

23:42 Is Money the Root of All Evil?

37:52 Sin Less, Feel Worse

42:34 The Rooms You Don't Let God Into

44:29 How to Fight Addiction

58:36 Is It Wrong to Make Money in Ministry?

1:05:56 Is Online Church Enough?

1:09:49 Why You Don't Feel Close to God

1:24:09 Football Season Is Here

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Pastor Joby Martin and Denny Thompson sit down with Dr. Joel Muddamalle on this week's episode of Built 4 More.

Joel is the Director of Theology and Research at Proverbs 31 Ministries, cohost of Therapy and Theology alongside Lysa TerKeurst, and author of The Unseen Battle.

Before any of that, Joel was a Bible software salesman at the peak of his career, traveling 150,000 miles a year while his marriage quietly fell apart. His oldest son started hiding his travel bag because he knew dad would leave when it came out.

Joel, Joby, and Denny talk about the reality of spiritual warfare and why the enemy's tactics are more subtle than most people expect. Joel breaks down the ancient pattern of temptation through what we see, what we desire, and what we take, and how that same pattern shows up today through addiction, pornography, AI, entertainment, and comfort. They get into what it means to give the enemy a foothold, what is actually discipling you and your kids, why feelings cannot be the authority over Scripture, how to test the words God told me, and why ordinary obedience in the smallest task matters more than chasing outcomes.

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Pastor Joby Martin and Denny Thompson sit down to answer listener questions.

If you have a question for a future episode, drop it in the comments.

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Chapters:

02:17 – I'm Saved. Why Do I Still Feel Guilty?

08:49 – How to Find Your Spiritual Gift

12:39 – How to Build a Real Connection With God

17:44 – Who You Hang Around Matters

21:29 – What Full Surrender Actually Looks Like

26:16 – If You Won't Wake Up for It, You Don't Want It

30:26 – How to Explain Jesus to a Nonbeliever

33:29 – Communicating Needs Without Nagging

36:00 – Vulnerability in Marriage

42:37 – How to Choose a Home Church

49:17 – Is Gambling a Sin or Just Dumb?

55:24 – Could Jesus Have Sinned?

01:02:27 – The Most Important Trait of Biblical Manhood

01:05:26 – Can Women Be Pastors?

Pastor Joby Martin and Denny Thompson sit down with Super Bowl champion Brady Russell of the Seattle Seahawks.

Brady grew up in church, led FCA in high school, and knew all the right answers. But looking back, he realized there was a major difference between knowing about Jesus and actually knowing Him.

Brady walks through the seasons when God’s plan made little sense in the moment. At Colorado, he had every reason to leave, but while praying he felt God tell him to “be where your feet are.” What followed was one of the hardest seasons of his life, and Brady began wondering if he had heard God wrong. It was only later that he saw what God had been doing through him the entire time.

Joby, Denny, and Brady talk about trusting God when you cannot see the outcome, why obedience often comes before understanding, how to recognize God’s faithfulness in hindsight, and what it looks like to follow Jesus when the people around you do not. Brady shares why he prayed for a platform as a kid, only to discover that his greatest platform would not be fame or attention. It would be the relationships right in front of him.

Today, Brady is using that platform to disciple other NFL players, lead Bible studies, and live out a faith that can be seen in the way he works, leads, and serves. It is a conversation about being faithful where God has placed you and trusting that no season is wasted when He is the one leading you.

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Pastor Joby Martin and Denny Thompson sit down with Dr. Jeremiah Johnston, New York Times bestselling author of The Jesus Discoveries, president of the Christian Thinkers Society, and one of the world's leading scholars on the resurrection of Jesus. He earned his PhD at Oxford studying the resurrection.

Jeremiah did not just talk about the evidence. He put it on the table. The oldest fragment of the New Testament. A replica of the whip that took a third of Jesus's blood. A crown of thorns cut in Jerusalem the week before, from the same tree the Ark of the Covenant was built from. Coins of every man who tried to kill Jesus. And a real first century crucifixion nail, bent and rusted from use, that left Denny speechless. Then he walks through the physics of the Shroud of Turin: an image one fifth the width of a human hair, created by 34 billion watts of energy in a fraction of a billionth of a second, that science still cannot replicate.

Joby, Denny, and Jeremiah talk about how we have 5,800 manuscripts of the New Testament, the miraculous healing of Jeremiah's son Abel, why you are the pastor of your home, why faith was never meant to be faith in faith, and the moment a box marked Crown of Thorns showed up on Denny’s doorstep.

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Chapters:

00:00 – Meet Dr. Jeremiah Johnston

09:33 – Is the Bible Just a Copy of a Copy

10:43 – Holding the Oldest Fragment of the New Testament

19:11 – We Don't Have Faith in Faith

21:06 – How the Manuscripts Were Actually Written

30:53 – We Only Have 26 Days of Jesus's Life

35:33 – The Whip That Took a Third of His Blood

40:47 – The Ark of the Covenant Connection

45:43 – Why We Don't Take Sin Seriously

52:30 – Psalm 22 Was Written Before Crucifixion Existed

53:17 – Holding a Real Crucifixion Nail

1:05:52 – Coins of Every Man Who Tried to Kill Jesus

1:13:14 – Growing Up in Church vs Knowing Why You Believe

1:20:35 – Shroud of Turin

1:24:38 – The Morning of April 5, AD 33

1:34:11 – A PhD in the Resurrection at Oxford

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Pastor Joby Martin and Denny Thompson sit down with Edwin Martin on this week’s episode of Built 4 More.

At 20 years old, Edwin was hiding a four year gambling addiction that nearly cost him his life. He was borrowing money he couldn’t repay, carrying debts no one knew about, and placing bets from the church pew while claiming to follow Jesus.

It ended with Edwin alone on his bathroom floor, ready to take his own life. He prayed one desperate prayer: “God, if You are real, reveal Yourself.” Ten seconds later, his best friend unexpectedly texted him three words: “I love you.” That text interrupted Edwin’s darkest moment, and the friend who sent it would eventually lead him to Christ.

Five years later, Edwin is an endurance athlete using every mile to point people toward hope. He recently ran 133.2 miles on a treadmill for 24 hours straight at a 10:49 minute per mile pace to raise money for suicide prevention. Months earlier, he ran across the entire state of South Carolina to support families battling cancer.

Joby, Denny, and Edwin talk about the gambling epidemic hiding in plain sight, how sports betting is being engineered to keep people hooked, the difference between Jesus plus something and Jesus alone, why the enemy doesn’t care how he hooks you, and what can happen when you obey a nudge from God. They also discuss fitness without fulfillment, stewarding your body as an act of worship, and The Ship, which is Edwin’s mission to mentor fatherless boys.

If you have ever hidden a struggle behind a smile or wondered whether your story can still be redeemed, this conversation is for you.

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Chapters:

00:00 Meet Edwin Martin

00:24 Running 133 Miles in 24 Hours

02:08 Running Across South Carolina

02:55 The Transformation Photo

06:05 Why Edwin Runs for Suicide Prevention

06:23 The Gambling Addiction Nobody Knew About

06:53 The Text That Saved His Life

07:45 Sports Betting’s Hidden Cost

08:54 How to Know When You Have a Problem

10:27 You Can Bet on Anything Now

12:49 Is Jesus Really Enough?

13:08 The Enemy Doesn’t Care How He Hooks You

14:43 Why Monday Night Football Exists

17:07 They’re Engineering Your Brain

18:56 The Friend Who Led Edwin to Christ

21:34 Why He Walked Away From the Navy SEALs

22:16 The Text That Changed His Path

23:07 When God Tells You to Text Someone

24:55 The Hardest Text Joby Ever Sent

27:33 Three Phone Calls That Saved Three Lives

31:11 A Message for Anyone in a Dark Place

32:11 The Messages That Keep Coming

33:24 The Biggest Struggles Facing His Generation

35:58 Fitness Without Fulfillment

37:00 Running Is Just the Vehicle

38:04 The Greyhound Chasing a Fake Rabbit

40:48 The Antidote Nobody Wants to Hear

45:04 Can Working Out Glorify God?

47:26 Work Is Worship

48:06 Joby’s 30-Pound Comeback

51:19 Love God With All Your Strength

54:53 Seized by a Greater Affection

59:35 You Only Have One Life

1:01:04 Jesus Plus Something Isn’t Jesus

1:01:44 The Ship: Mentoring Fatherless Boys

1:03:41 Who Will Pick Up Your Mat?

1:10:18 No More Casual Christianity

1:12:54 Your Story Isn’t Over

1:15:10 Project Savior Outdoors

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Pastor Joby Martin and Denny Thompson sit down with Jacksonville Jaguars head coach Liam Coen on this week's episode of Built 4 More.

Liam was a four-year starting quarterback at UMass where he still holds multiple school passing records. He spent nearly a decade grinding through small Northeast programs  Brown, Rhode Island, and Maine, writing handwritten letters and knocking on every NFL door he could find, until one relationship finally got him in with Sean McVay and the Rams. A few years later he's the head coach of the Jacksonville Jaguars, and in year one he took a franchise that had been going nowhere and led it to 13 wins and a division championship.

But long before any of that, Liam walked through the hardest thing of his life. He opens up about losing his mother, Beth after  a four year battle with Lyme disease while he was in college and his dad was in the hospital. He talks honestly about burying that grief for a decade, the way it eventually crept up and started to eat at him, the mental health toll of pretending he was fine, and how a real relationship with Jesus finally brought him grace, forgiveness, and healing.

Joby, Denny, and Liam talk about authenticity and why players "sniff out a fraud" instantly, the permission to fail that unlocked Trevor Lawrence, why he deleted all of his social media, the difference between a hero and a warrior, why "balance doesn't exist," what Travis Hunter really brings to the locker room, and what it looks like to stop trying to be someone else and become who God actually made you.

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Chapters:

00:00 – Meet Coach Liam Coen

04:36 – Why He Fell in Love With Jacksonville

07:11 – How He Turned the Jaguars Around

09:48 – Did He Know Trevor Could Be This?

10:19 – Watching Trevor Lawrence as a Freshman

13:17 – "Go Be You": Unlocking Trevor

15:28 – The Permission to Fail

18:21 – Why He Stopped Trying to Be Other Coaches

20:17 – The Houston Collapse

21:12 – Hero vs. Warrior: The Meeting That Turned the Season

24:59 – The Youngest Staff in NFL History

27:24 – "Do I Belong Here?"

30:25 – The Night He Knew He Belonged

32:39 – What Sean McVay Taught Him About People

33:32 – Tony Boselli and the Standard

35:18 – The Travis Hunter Trade

35:44 – The Real Travis Hunter

39:34 – From UMass QB to NFL Head Coach

40:38 – How He Went From Maine to the Rams

46:37 – "We'll Play Anybody, Anywhere, Anytime"

49:22 – The Pressure of High Expectations

51:56 – Losing His Mom

55:07 – The Trauma He Buried for 10 Years

55:50 – How Faith Brought Him Grace and Forgiveness

59:05 – The Cleats and the Holy Spirit

1:00:38 – The Myth of "There"

1:01:28 – The Question That Made Him Quit Social Media

1:03:26 – Why Balance Doesn't Exist

1:05:48 – Family Days and Putting People First

1:08:22 – Why He's Grateful to Coach in Jacksonville

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