In this episode of Built Between, Lily and Jackie sit down for one of their most real and unfiltered conversations yet.

They talk about the joy that comes from walking with the Lord and how once you truly experience His presence, the things you used to chase start to lose their pull. What the world offers might feel good for a moment, but nothing compares to the joy that comes from God.

The conversation moves through a mix of topics - friendship, church community, balancing different personalities, and learning how to grow alongside the people God places in your life.

They also open up about real struggles believers face, including judgment, lust, and the daily battle of renewing your mind and turning to God when temptation shows up.

Throughout the episode, they remind listeners of one important truth: following Jesus doesn’t mean being perfect. It means being honest, seeking Him daily, and allowing His grace to meet you in the middle of your growth.

Loving Jesus isn’t boring - it’s joyful, freeing, and very real.