In Part 2 of our conversation with Haro and Mariam Setian, we pick up at a dramatic turning point—just after Haro is told he’s had a stroke. What unfolds next is an honest and moving exploration of what happens when leaders are forced to let go.

This episode dives into the unraveling of their businesses, the unexpected role Mariam steps into, and the sacred shift that happens when rest becomes non-negotiable.

Whether you’ve taken a sabbatical, are longing for one, or just feel the weight of “holding it all together”—this episode is for you.

🕒 Topics & Time Stamps (approximate):

• [01:00] Picking up after the stroke diagnosis — chaos meets clarity
• [04:00] Mariam steps into unexpected leadership and crisis control
• [10:00] Why everything fell apart before sabbatical even began
• [15:30] How peace and trust emerged in the midst of collapse
• [20:00] Leaving for sabbatical—flights booked, business unresolved
• [26:00] Practical rhythms and mindset shifts during sabbatical
• [35:00] What changed in Mariam: from regret to redemption
• [43:00] Haro’s shift: letting go of control, status, and significance
• [50:00] Redefining leadership post-sabbatical: slowing down on purpose
• [58:00] The hard return—why reentry might be harder than leaving
• [1:05:00] What it really means to live from rest—and lead from rest

💡 In This Episode, You'll Learn:

• What it looks like to lead through health scares, team breakdowns, and transition
• How to surrender outcomes without sacrificing purpose
• The internal and external shifts that sabbatical creates in both leadership and family
• Why saying "yes" to rest often requires a series of "no’s"—and how to discern the difference
• How rest, healing, and leadership are deeply intertwined

👉 New here? Be sure to check out Part 1 of this conversation to hear the full journey from burnout to breakthrough.