Host Ana Marie Cox sits with Burn Gorman to talk about his experience playing bad guys, the similarities he sees between The Expanse and the 'old west' and his character's relationship to the others on the show. Ana is also joined by Ty Franck who writes and produces the TV show and speaks about the show's new landscape. Enjoy this spoiler-free conversation!

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