Callahan Winner, Dallas Roughneck, and future school superintendent Gabe Hernandez joins Steve and Shaggy to talk about Ultimate during the summer of anything else. They also discuss Gabe's extremely successful work with the AUDL Inclusion Initiative where he raised over $68,000, and they talk about what it would take to increase visibility for people of color in Ultimate. They also cover Gabe's future Olympic aspirations, Steve's filmography, and Gabe's future career as a musician.