You don't have to be a youth minister to be in youth ministry." This week, Josh and Rick return to their roots to discuss the high turnover and the desperate need for soul care in student ministry.We are joined by Rick’s longtime mentor, Arpoika Daniels, to discuss:

• Why every young leader needs a "Paul" to their "Timothy." 
• Navigating the "lonely island" of leadership. 
• Finding hope in a new generation of truth-seekers. 

Whether you’re a veteran leader or just getting your feet wet (or thrown in the deep end), this conversation is for you.

We want to hear from YOU. We need your stories and your struggles—the big ones, the messy ones, and the funny ones. 📧 Email us: [email protected] 📝 Submit anonymously: https://bit.ly/burningoutbush

The matches are struck. The mic is warm. Let’s step into the fire.

In this episode, Josh and Rick talk with Clay Bryant about how to care for your family while serving the church family. It's a delicate balance between the two.

We want to hear from YOU. We need your stories and your struggles—the big ones, the messy ones, and the funny ones. 📧 Email us: [email protected] 📝 Submit anonymously: https://bit.ly/burningoutbush

The matches are struck. The mic is warm. Let’s step into the fire.

In this episode of The Burning Out Bush, Josh Moyer and Rick sit down with Jared Mayes, Lead Minister at the Southside Church of Christ in Rogers, Arkansas. Jared shares his unique journey—one that began with a desire to preach at age five and remained remarkably focused through adulthood.

However, even a "lifelong dream" isn't immune to the heavy realities of vocational ministry. We have a raw conversation about the "unseen" hours of the job, the struggle with imposter syndrome, and the moments when leadership gets "ugly".

Key Discussion Points:

• Calling vs. Career: Exploring the difference and why a "calling" requires your whole self.
   
• The Weight of Ministry: How to stay prayerfully engaged when you feel like you're "wearing all the weight".
  
  
• Mentorship & Discipleship: The vital role of having "men who shape you" and why ministers need ministers.
   
• The Minister Shortage: Discussing why we are seeing a shortage in our tribe and how we can empower the next generation.
   
• Training for the Future: Jared discusses the Kerusso Experience and the importance of giving young people a platform to build confidence.
   

Join us for an honest look at what it means to be "God-strengthened" rather than relying on our own power, ensuring we don't become the "burning out bush".

We want to hear from YOU. We need your stories and your struggles—the big ones, the messy ones, and the funny ones. 📧 Email us: [email protected] 📝 Submit anonymously: https://bit.ly/burningoutbush

The matches are struck. The mic is warm. Let’s step into the fire.

In this pilot episode, Josh and Rick explain who they are and where this show will go. Learn their stories and why providing a safe place to explore the world of ministers is important to them. 

We want to hear from YOU. We need your stories and your struggles—the big ones, the messy ones, and the funny ones. 📧 Email us: [email protected] 📝 Submit anonymously: https://bit.ly/burningoutbush

The matches are struck. The mic is warm. Let’s step into the fire.

Meet Josh and Rick. One loves camo, the other loves Star Wars. They are two very different ministers with very different styles, but they share one common goal: pulling back the curtain on the reality of church leadership.

Ministry is holy and beautiful, but it can also be heavy, lonely, and flat-out exhausting. In The Burning Out Bush Podcast, we explore the massive difference between the burning bush God shows us in Scripture and the minister who is simply burning out.

Whether you are a pastor, a ministry spouse, a church leader, or just curious about what happens behind the scenes, this is a safe, confidential place for honest conversations. We aren’t here to bash the church, but we are here to be real about the struggles, the awkward moments, the victories, and the wounds.

We want to hear from YOU. We need your stories and your struggles—the big ones, the messy ones, and the funny ones. 📧 Email us: [email protected] 📝 Submit anonymously: https://bit.ly/burningoutbush

The matches are struck. The mic is warm. Let’s step into the fire.