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Burnout, Ceiling, and Learning the Hard Way (with Ronnie Hughes)

(Alt option if you want it slightly shorter later: Hitting the Ceiling and Rethinking Ownership | Ronnie Hughes)

What happens when you do everything “right” — and still hit a ceiling?

In this episode of the Legacy Builders Podcast, Mario sits down with longtime friend Ronnie Hughes to talk about burnout, stalled career growth, and the lessons that come from chasing the wrong business models.

Ronnie shares his journey through:

Corporate sales and premium partnerships

Hitting a ceiling with no real path forward

Trying the “done-for-you” Amazon FBA model

Losing money — and learning from it

Why control and ownership matter more than hype

Rethinking risk, subscriptions, and buying businesses instead of building from scratch

They also dive into:

Empty promotion promises

What seeing wealthy people up close teaches you

Why third-party managed businesses can fail

Balancing ambition, family, and fatherhood

What generational wealth really means beyond money

This is an honest conversation about learning the hard way, staying curious, and not quitting when things don’t go as planned.

Legacy Builders Podcast — redefining generational wealth one story at a time.

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