Whitney Fogler rejoins the pod and talks with us about combatting burnout, explaining guacamole, and vermin problems. We discuss different phases of burnout, and how we each deal with its sources.

Also featured: Burnout paradise, asshattery, not working in coal mines, flip flop wine, eye contact, and sugar ant stealth kills

Featuring Whitney Fogler, Wallace Branin, Joey Rebbe, and Andrew Davies

Art by Justin Kedl

Produced by Andrew Davies