Is it possible to completely fire-proof a house? Cosmos journalist Imma Perfetto chats to Tonia Welsh and Will Norman, who lost their home in the Black Summer and have rebuilt with fire in mind. Can everyone do what they did?

Imma is joined by Dr Kate Nguyen, Professor Jim McLennan and Mark Leplastrier, to learn how fire-proof our homes can really become – and how detailed your plan has to be if so.

This episode was produced by Ellen Phiddian and edited by Andrew Wyrill. Theme music by Will Berryman.

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