"Co-creation is a beautiful process." - Brian Payne

In this episode of Brave New Wealth, host Julienna sits down with Brian Payne, President and CFO of Engineering Tax Services, for a thought-provoking conversation that explores business as a living, breathing work of art. They unpack what it means to co-create in business, where emotional intelligence, vision alignment, and even healthy conflict become essential tools for innovation and growth. Brian shares wisdom from his leadership journey, emphasizing the need to nurture foundational "roots" for long-term success. This episode offers a fresh perspective on leadership, culture, and what it truly takes to create something meaningful with your team.

Key Takeaways:

• Think of business as an ecosystem, not just a system
• Sustainable growth begins with strong roots 
• Conflict can be productive when handled with emotional intelligence 
• Co-creation requires intentionality and shared vision 
• Leadership is about conducting the symphony, not playing every instrument 

Learn more about Brian Payne 

Thank you to sponsor: Engineered Tax Services

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