During a hot summer day we had Els Deboutte on our show. She is a Leuven (Belgium) -based HR veteran who started her own coaching program, called Make Me Fly (https://makemefly.be/) and tea and wine bar with her husband, called Terroir (https://www.terroirleuven.be/).

Through wit and humour we passed an intense afternoon debating personal growth. An important topic to look out for: what it is like for a mother to swim against the current when you choose to swap your job for an uncertain future as an entrepreneur. 

Enjoy the life stories from someone who sees the world in her own way, without an apology, nor any excuses.