Charles Burdett and Jacob Welby from Pip Decks talk about the version of running a business that nobody writes books about - the one where you actually have a life.

They also chat about: a lollipop lady making $15,000 a month from a hand-drawn zine, why AI is making everyone's marketing taste identical (and how to use that to your advantage), as well as the Seth Godin quote that's secretly behind Pip Decks' success.

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