In normal fashion this episode hits on several topics. 

-Gary tells a story about using a butter knife as protection just in case a sociopath decided to try and kill him.

-A Secret Service agent allegedly left her post to nurse her baby which leads to discussion about concerning aspects about the 30x30 initiative. It sounds nice but is it really a good initiative for law enforcement?

-Anthony and Gary provide some context and expertise to a Chicago PD foot pursuit that ended violently. (https://www.chicagocopa.org/case/2024-0005768/)

Was it justified? Why is only some video made easily available? Does a bad outcome mean the use of force was excessive? They answer these questions and more.

Gary Lowe/Lancaster Leather

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