This week on By The Way Bibi chatted with Katia de Valliar.

Katia is musician, horserider and data analyst by day. Upon tragically losing her horse Nana this year she wrote a song titled 'Watch Over Me' in honour of Nana. She then partnered with Joanne Pursey from the Highveld Horse Care Unit to raise funds and awareness about this incredible organisation and the work they do.

She chatted with Bibi about what sparked her love for horseriding and how young people can get involved with this project