What can an Illinois-born Texas BBQ chef tell us about gumbo? Well, a lot, as we learn from Aaron Vogel, an award-winning pitmaster and owner of Cackle and Oink, a Sherman-Texas hotspot. Join us as we talk about what sort of Texas influences he brings to his gumbo and what he thinks about the Cajun versions that were all around at the World Championship Gumbo Cookoff in New Iberia.