Michele Sileo is back! Jon wants to talk “The Mandalorian” but Michele spent all her time watching “The Vow” and “Seduced”. They talk about how innocently cults can make contact, when you know it’s too late to leave and why NXIVM got so close to a Superman show. Plus Karens never learn and Michele has dinner with an old friend who has a story that goes EVERYWHERE. [EP201]