Tensions explode as David Williams and Steven Orr clash over California's immigration crisis. With the state running massive deficits while providing extensive services, David argues we've "acted irresponsibly" bringing in workers as agricultural production declines. Steven counters that America has "unlimited resources" and survived worse. The heated exchange reveals deep divides: David's construction crews hiding from ICE, Steven's defense of diplomacy, and both men's shared concern for trafficking victims. Raw, unfiltered, and deeply personal.

Timestamps:

• (00:00) Opening Tensions: "We Don't Have Five Years"
• (00:35) California's Burden: Deficits and Social Services
• (01:26) Tariffs and Jobs: Economic Ripple Effects
• (02:17) Technology Replacing Workers: The Future Problem
• (03:40) Pacific Palisades Burns: Water vs. Immigration
• (04:23) "America Can Handle Anything" - The Debate Heats Up
• (06:10) Personal Attacks: When Policy Gets Heated
• (08:22) Finding Middle Ground Through Technology
• (21:13) Private Sector: The Real Solution?

Connect: 

• Steven E. Orr: X - https://x.com/qmbigbeat 
• LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/qmbigbeat/

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