Camden Shaw is a calisthenics enthusiast. Camden talks to Kai about his frustrations when he started the cello (5:14), his philosophy in taking three weeks off from playing every year (14), and how calisthenics has transformed his playing (20). They also discuss his property in Washington and what he has learned from working on it (29:37), and how he reached his decision to pursue a career with the Dover Quartet (37:40).