You probably know Camilla Franks as the ‘kaftan queen’: the larger-than-life icon of the Australian fashion industry whose designs are loved by Oprah, JLo, and Robbie Williams. But beyond Camilla, the designer, is Camilla the advocate and all-round champion for breast cancer awareness and screening – a journey she knows all too well after being diagnosed with breast cancer in 2018, eight weeks after the birth of her daughter.

In this episode of Under The Gloss, Phoebe and Camilla chat about the pursuit of perfectionism, her special bond with Olivia Newton-John, Zoom chats with Robbie Williams, and the big changes she’s championing when it comes to a breast cancer diagnosis.

Content warning:  This episode contains discussions of loss and suicidal feelings so please take care when listening. If this raises any issues or concerns, you can reach out to Lifeline on 131114 or at www.lifeline.org.au.

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