If you’re reading this on your phone while avoiding something else, congratulations — you are the product. This episode started as a conversation about No Scroll, an AI tool that promises to filter your social media feed so you only see the good stuff. It turned into something more honest: a reckoning with why these platforms exist, why every fix we try doesn’t work, and whether AI tools — including No Scroll, including ChatGPT, including everything we’re told will save us — are running the same playbook Facebook ran in 2009. Jason and Jeremy don’t have a clean answer. But they have a really good metaphor involving methadone and nicotine patches.

Key Moments

• 00:00 — No Scroll reviewed: AI that doom scrolls so you don’t have to
• 01:28 — Twitter as a cesspool with gold nuggets: Jason’s defense of the tool
• 03:10 — Jeremy’s alcoholic analogy: why paying a robot to drink your booze isn’t sobriety
• 04:07 — The nicotine patch theory: harm reduction vs. actual behavior change
• 07:01 — Inshidification: the cycle that turns every useful platform into a garbage pile
• 08:32 — Jason’s internet history lesson: from ARPANET to walled gardens to AI
• 11:20 — How AI companies are repeating the Facebook model: hook, rely, monetize
• 14:50 — ‘You are the product’ — and you’re also a sucker for believing it’s changed
• 17:16 — Jeremy’s prediction: AI is going to make the internet boring and we’ll still watch it
• 25:54 — AI productivity paradox: Jeremy is more efficient than ever, companies are flat
• 27:00 — What people actually do with saved time (spoiler: not more work)
• 27:58 — The 10/90 rule: 10% of people do 90% of the work, AI or not