In this episode of Breaking the Meta, Mike Winson sits down with Presbyterian pastor Emily Knoth to talk about faith, justice, LGBTQ inclusion, and the role of the church in today’s political and social climate. From being the first queer pastor ordained in her Kansas presbytery to helping people find affirming churches, Emily shares what it means to live out Christianity through compassion, humility, and justice.

They discuss the intersection of faith and politics, why church should be a place of transformation and community, the harm caused when Christianity is used to exclude, and how progressive Christians can respond with love and action. The conversation explores online church, the loss of third spaces, and how believers can rebuild community rooted in dignity and respect.

If you’ve ever wrestled with faith, church hurt, inclusion, or what it means to follow Jesus in a divided world, this conversation offers hope and perspective.

Action is the antidote to despair, but it must come from something grounded and deeper.

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