Deborah Ogden is a personal branding and impact coach - Her CV is fascinating, she started her career as a lawyer and then moved on to help sportspeople get sponsorship deals.

Deborah's journey is one of firsts, she was the first woman to be a professional media manager. Her story is also about achievement, she was brought up to not just take part but succeed.

But it's not all about success and firsts...

Leona chats to her about:

• How becoming a mother almost broke her, but also put her on a path she's still on
• Why she always jumps before the count of three...
• The loss of her father and how that has impacted her

LINKS

Leona Deakin https://leonadeakin.co.uk/

Deborah Ogden https://www.deborahogden.com/

Podcast production by Ginger Wizard Productions https://www.gingerwizard.co.uk/