What happens when the “joke candidate” suddenly doesn’t feel like a joke anymore?

In this episode of Drive Time with Matt, we dive into the rise of outsider candidates like Spencer Pratt and what it says about frustration, leadership, and trust in today’s culture. This conversation goes way beyond politics as we explore why people are becoming more willing to reject polished systems in favor of authenticity, disruption, and change.

From social media influence to disconnected leadership, this episode takes a hard look at what happens when people stop feeling heard — in government, relationships, churches, workplaces, and everyday life.

Sometimes the rise of an outsider doesn’t mean people found the perfect answer… it means they’ve lost confidence in the old ones.