Aleksander (Olek) Kaminski, a researcher at the Institute of Aquaculture at the University of Stirling discusses the potential benefits of incorporating fish farming into household livelihood strategies with Professor David Little. The podcast discusses the income and food security benefits of having a pond by also looking beyond just the fish and seeing the pond as a strategic component of a larger food system, one that is interconnected with terrestrial crops and livestock; but also as a potential tool against climate shocks - begging the question: does having a pond on your farm make you more climate smart?