Law professor and former United States Attorney Joyce Vance joins Marc Elias to discuss whether the justice system can handle a defendant like Trump, the state of voting rights in Alabama and what we all can do to save democracy.

Read Joyce’s Substack: https://joycevance.substack.com

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