It has been a rough 2 weeks for the New Orleans Saints and their Who Dat fans. With multiple chances to take hold of the NFC South, the team has failed, and now they’re either going to get back on the winning train and win the division for the fifth time in eight years, or they’re going to fall in a deep, dark abyss.

Which is it? We’ll find out a whole lot about this team Sunday against the Detroit Lions, who are also struggling a bit as of late. With all the negativity surrounding them, will they be able to turn this season into a “us vs. the world” mentality? Will they be able to get past the injuries to Chris Olave, Rashid Shaheed, Marcus Lattimore and more?

These are tough questions, and Dattitude Podcast (Ep. 194) host Jim Derry brings in The Athletic’s Larry Holder to answer them as he does each Friday throughout the NFL season. Also, the duo will discuss their thoughts on Week 13 in the NFL, including the big 49ers-Eagles game on Sunday.