The U.S.-China relationship is at its most strained point in decades, with tariffs surging, trade collapsing, and trust evaporating. Jeremie Waterman, President of the China Center at the U.S. Chamber of Commerce, warns that this moment didn’t begin with Trump or Biden—but with long-running structural forces on both sides. He joins Jay Sapsford on The Call to break down China’s push for self-reliance, what’s really driving decoupling, and, in a race against the clock, what both sides need to be doing to stabilize the relationship.

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